Anachronisms in the Torah

In the Torah (Genesis-Deuteronomy), there are many Anachronisms, or things that dont belong there. Why is this? It is because the Torah was not written by 1 author and wasnt written by Moses. It was written by multiple authors in the first millenium BC. What are the anachronisms? 

  • If Moses wrote Deuteronomy, He didnt write about his death.
  • Exodus 19:22, 24 talk about Priests. At first this may not seem significant. But looking closer, one realizes that the priesthood could not nor was established until after “Moses went up to Mt. Sinai”. 
  • Genesis 47:1-6,11 is suppose to take place sometime 1561-1451 BCE which is Joseph’s lifetime, but the reign of Rameses the Great did not begin until about 1279 BCE. It lasted until about 1213 BCE. Consequently, the area at issue was not named for Rameses until the 13th century BCE or subsequently, but at least two hundred years after the initial settlement of Jacob’s family according to Genesis. Moreover, the name Goshen may be related to an Arabic tribe whose domination of the area did not occur prior to the 6th or 5th centuries BCE.
  • In Genesis 26:1, we read that at a time when famine forced him to move, Isaac traveled to the King of the Philistines. The story seems perfectly reasonable, until one realizes that the Philistines, as part of the Seas Peoples migration, did not arrive in Canaan until about 1200 BCE, centuries after Isaac died.
  • In Genesis 11:28, we read that Haran, brother of Abram (as he was then named) died in his native land, called Ur of the Chaldeans. Ur, located in what is now Iraq, was an ancient city, once the capital of Sumer. But the Chaldean Empire existed only relatively briefly, from about 626 to 539 BCE. That is, there were no Chaldeans until the late 7th or 6th centuries BCE, perhaps a thousand years or more after the reported death.
  • Genesis 36:31-39 “The Jewish court physician Isaac ibn Yashush, for example, observed in the later half of the eleventh century that the Edomite kings list in Genesis 36:31-39 could not possibly have been written by Moses; the list recalls names of Edomite kings who were active in the times of David and Solomon. Furthermore, Gen 36:31 strongly implies that its author was writing after the monarchy was established in Israel, since he possesses knowledge of a monarchal period in Israelite history: “These are the kings who reigned in the land of Edom before any king reigned over the Israelites.” This passage must have been written by someone living in the 9th century BC at the earliest” 

More from an article that I got support from:

There are additionally numerous political and religious institutions, and even city names throughout the Hexateuch (the books of Genesis through Joshua) which did not exist in the time of the patriarchs, the exodus, the wilderness narratives, or the conquest narratives. That is to say, they did not yet exist in the narrative’s purported historical setting. They are anachronisms and reflect the geopolitical world of a much later time period, the actual author’s time period. The 9th-8th century BC border between the Israelites and the Philistines, for example, is anachronistically portrayed as a treaty made between Abraham/Isaac and the Philistine king Abimelek in Genesis 21:30-32 and 26:32-33. Likewise Israel and Aram’s 9th-8th century BC political border is portrayed through the covenant made between Jacob and Laban. As is visible from these two examples, tribal or kin relationships depicted in the book of Genesis often recall the political realities of a much later time period, that is of the author of the text’s own time period. The relationship between Jacob and Esau in Genesis 25 and 27, which our narrative informs us are eponyms for Israel and Edom respectively, reflects the political relationship between Israel and Edom in the 9th and 8th centuries BC—the time in which this narrative was most likely written, and thus it aims at explaining the origins of its own historico-political circumstances. There are many more anachronisms throughout the Hexateuch and they have served later generations of biblical scholars and readers as clues to the dates of composition of the texts and traditions that make up its books

The Torah, and other book of the Old Testament (OT) includes anachronisms. 

What does this mean for the Bible?

Do Anachronisms disprove the Bible? No. The Bible was originally written to convey God’s message and the History of God’s interaction with Humanity; All while presenting it all Culturally throughout the OT. You notice that God never went into detail about science things such as photosynthesis, the digestive system, gravity, etc….”Why” you may ask; because the culture of that time didnt know about gravity, cells, UV rays, ATP, Chlorophyll, etc. So why would God cause confusion about this stuff instead of just conveying Hus message culturally? God is the inspiration and He inspired the different Authors to write the different parts that fit their culture. 

I hope this helped you all and God bless! 


Separating Theology and Science

I have been in thought for awhile now and have realized why people seem to have a hard time reconciling Christ with Evolution, or more specifically, the Bible and Evolution. The reason is one word: Theology. 

What do I mean by this? Most people focus on Theology  when discussing Creation. Since most people have a set belief going into the debate, they use their theology and influence their scientific view. Young Earth Creationists, believing Genesis 1 is literal and their views on other theological topics, look for any shred of evidence for a young earth and discredit opposing evidence no matter how valid it is. Same thing goes for Progressive Creationists as well as Atheistic Evolutionists and Evolutionary Creationists. Everyone does it. Period. 

This is why Im writing this short-ish post. We need to separate Theology from Science when we are just looking at Science. When Im trying to find how old an object is, by using all dating methods, Im not using theology, but Science. After we determine the age, we need to grab our Theology and Scientific data, and reconcile it. This process will take a while but ultimately will work better than using Theology to interpret science. Young Earth Creationists do it 24/7. They say “ok so universe is 6,000 years old so I need to find out how this data fits into a young earth”. But in reality, you cant alter God’s Creation to fit your belief. If God’s Creation says this fossil is 25,000 years old, then that’s what it is. When we do science we should really say “Ok this data says this fossil is 25,000 years old. Now let me reinterpret the Bible to see if I can reconcile God’s Word with God’s Creation”  This sounds alot better. It allows more freedom to explore and be free instead of worrying about a timeline. 

To summarize what I just said, we need to study Science and Theology separately and KEEP them separate until you need to reconcile them. That’s my process of thought. I study the Bible and find out what its saying, then study Science to find out what happened in the past, and how things work. Then I take my Scientific data and take my Theology, and fit them together. If I have to reinterpret the Bible, I will. After all, a book, even God’s Word can have many interpretations but scientific data that speaks straight forward facts, can only have 1 meaning. 

I hope the Christian Community understands this and doesnt use Theology to dictate Science. Obviously science is studying God’s Creation so we shouldnt be afraid to let God’s Creation speak for itself and we shouldn’t be afraid to admit we are wrong about our interpretation of the Bible. We shouldn’t fear about having to reinterpret the Bible. 

Temple not in New Jerusalem but in us!

Today at Church, we had a guest speaker who was talking about Hebrews 9. We also looked at verses in Ezekiel 37. It was talking about the temple stuff. This sparked a connection in my mind that said, Ezekiel 37 predicts and corresponds to Revelation 21!!! I’ll show you why….

So Ezekiel 37:26‭-‬28 (NKJV) says:

“Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them, and it shall be an everlasting covenant with them; I will establish them and multiply them, and I will set My sanctuary in their midst forevermore. My tabernacle also shall be with them; indeed I will be their God, and they shall be My people. The nations also will know that I, the Lord , sanctify Israel, when My sanctuary is in their midst forevermore.” ’ ”

Now Ezekiel says the Tabernacle (Temple) or resting place for God will be among His people. This implies that no physical temple with be needed. Lets see what Revelation says:

 But I saw no temple in it, for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple.

Revelation 21:22 (NKJV)

So Revelation is saying that there in New Jerusalem, God is our Temple. And based on descriptions of New Jerusalem, God dwells among His people. This corresponds with Ezekiel 37. 

Extra support for this is found in Hebrews 9:11-15 (NKJV):

“But Christ came as High Priest of the good things to come, with the greater and more perfect tabernacle not made with hands, that is, not of this creation. Not with the blood of goats and calves, but with His own blood He entered the Most Holy Place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption. For if the blood of bulls and goats and the ashes of a heifer, sprinkling the unclean, sanctifies for the purifying of the flesh, how much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without spot to God, cleanse your conscience from dead works to serve the living God? And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.”

Without explicitely saying anything, this verse indicates that a better tabernacle came with Jesus. It isnt a Tabernacle of this Earth which also supports the other 2 passages because a tabernacle among God’s people isnt an Earthly Tabernacle (Built by hands) but a spiritual one. 

Now Going back to Ezekiel, it talks about an Everlasting Covenant in the same passage…New Covenant is the only option really. This means the new tabernacle has to be in the New Covenant which is here now. The Tabernacle is a place where God dwells. Its also synonymous to a Temple which a temple wasnt found in New Jerusalem because God dwells in and among His People (vice versa) so there isnt a need for a temple. This all means these events have already occurred or are occuring. This New Covenant with Jesus has brought in the Tabernacle/Temple/Resting Place of God that is in the New Jerusalem. 

For more help with this, these links help:

The logical conclusion we draw from this is that Revelation 21 is indeed connected to the New Covenant which is already here, so how can the New Jerusalem not be here? It is logical that We are in New Jerusalem already, why? Because God dwells among His people now in the Church. 

Nero or Domitian (Irenaeus)

This post will be shorter than most of my other ones but still extremely important. 

Recently I have come across what appears to be a mistake made by so many Christians throughout History. The few Scholars who do not make this mistake will be quoted in this post. In Irenaeus’ “Against Heresies 5:30” he says “We will not, however, incur the risk of pronouncing positively as to the name of Antichrist; for if it were necessary that his name should be distinctly revealed in this present time, it would have been announced by him who beheld the apocalyptic vision. For that was seen no very long time since, but almost in our day, towards the end of DOMITIAN’S reign.”  (EMPHASIS MINE)

However, in the original language, Ireneaus uses the name “Domitianou” instead of “Domitianikos”. Domitianou actually refers to Nero. Even on One of Nero’s names  includes the name “Domitius” which is close to Domitian. Infact, names that were similar to Domitian were common in that time. 

Here are quotes from Scholars (Found here

 Robert Young (late 1800s) 

“It was written in Patmos about A.D.68, whither John had been banished by Domitius Nero, as stated in the title of the Syriac version of the Book; and with this concurs the express statement of Irenaeus (A.D.175), who says it happened in the reign of Domitianou, ie., Domitius (Nero). Sulpicius Severus, Orosius, &c., stupidly mistaking Domitianou for Domitianikos, supposed Irenaeus to refer to Domitian, A.D. 95, and most succeeding writers have fallen into the same blunder. The internal testimony is wholly in favor of the earlier date.” (Concise Critical Comments on the Holy Bible, by Robert Young. Published by Pickering and Inglis, London and Glasgow, (no date), Page 179 of the “New Covenant” section. See also: Young’s Concise Critical Bible Commmentary, Baker Book House, March 1977, ISBN: 0-8010-9914-5, pg 178.) 

Philip Schaff (1877) 
“On two points I have changed my opinion–the second Roman captivity of Paul (which I am disposed to admit in the interest of the Pastoral Epistles), and the date of the Apocalypse (which I now assign, with the majority of modern critics, to the year 68 or 69 instead of 95, as before).” (Vol. I, Preface to the Revised Edition, 1882 The History of the Christian Church, volume 1) 

“The early date [of Revelation] is now accepted by perhaps the majority of scholars.” (Enyclopedia 3:2036) 

“Tertullian’s legend of the Roman oil-martyrdom of John seems to point to Nero rather than to any other emperor, and was so understood by Jerome. (Adv. Jovin. 1.26) (History 1:428) 

“The destruction of Jerusalem would be a worthy theme for the genius of a Christian Homer. It has been called ‘the most soul-stirring of all ancient history.’ But there was no Jeremiah to sing the funeral dirge of the city of David and Solomon. The Apocalypse was already written, and had predicted that the heathen “shall tread the holy city under foot forty and two months.” (The History of the Christian Church, Vol I; 6:38) 

George E. Ladd (1972) 
“The problem with this [Domitian date] theory is that there is no evidence that during the last decade of the first century there occurred any open and systematic persecution of the church.” (George E. Ladd, A Commentary on Revelation – Grand Rapids, MI: Wm. B. Eerdmans, 1972, p. 8.) 

Steve Gregg (1997) 
“Many scholars, including those supportive of a late date, have said that there is no historical proof that there was an empire-wide persecution of Christians even in Domitian’s reign.” (Revelation: Four Views, p.16) 

Robert Jamieson, A. R. Fausset and David Brown (1871) 
“The following arguments favor an earlier date, namely, under Nero: (1) Eusebius [Demonstration of the Gospel] unites in the same sentence John’s banishment with the stoning of James and the beheading of Paul, which were under Nero. (2) Clement Of Alexandria’s story of the robber reclaimed by John, after he had pursued, and with difficulty overtaken him, accords better with John then being a younger man than under Domitian, when he was one hundred years old. (3) Arethas, in the sixth century, applies the sixth seal to the destruction of Jerusalem (A.D. 70), adding that the Apocalypse was written before that event. So the Syriac version states he was banished by Nero the Caesar. (4) Laodicea was overthrown by an earthquake (A.D. 60) but was immediately rebuilt, so that its being called “rich and increased with goods” is not incompatible with this book having been written under the Neronian persecution (A.D. 64)…(5) Cerinthus is stated to have died before John; as then he borrowed much in his Pseudo-Apocalypse from John’s, it is likely the latter was at an earlier date than Domitian’s reign. See Tilloch’s Introduction to Apocalypse. But the Pauline benediction (Re 1:4) implies it was written after Paul’s death under Nero.” (Commentary Critical and Explanatory Notes on the Whole Bible – 1871) 

A.N. Wilson (1977) 
“There is no concrete and inescapable reference, in any of the New Testament books, to the destruction of Jerusalem, and is this in itself not a pretty surprising fact? Would we not expect one of these writers, particularly those of a triumphalist turn of mind, to make it clear that the very core and centre of Jewish worship had been obliterated? Such a radical view inspired J.A.T. Robinson’s ‘Redating the New Testament,’ which made a spirited case for supposing that all the books of the canon were completed before 70.” (Paul: The Mind of the Apostle – p. 254) 

“The historian who tries to date and place John’s Revelation is guided by the author to a quite specific time span. The words of Revelation are written down four years after the Roman fire, and shortly after Nero’s own death. We know that they were written before the ultimate calamity of the Sack of Jerusalem by the Romans in AD 70…He writes of the earthly temple as still in existence [Rev 11:1-2].” (Paul: The Mind of the Apostle – p. 11) 

“In Paul’s lifetime, and Nero’s, there was no such thing as the New Testament–even though some of its individual writings (perhaps all of them in some primitive form) could be dated to before the fall of Jerusalem in AD 70.” (Paul: The Mind of the Apostle – p. 19)  ____________________________________________

Here are quotes from Early Church Fathers:

 Epiphanius of Salamis (315-403) 

“[John], who prophesied in the time of Claudius [Nero]…the prophetic word according to the Apocalypse being disclosed.” (Epiphanius, Panarion/Heresies 51:12,33) 

Clement (150-215) 
“For the teaching of our Lord at His advent, beginning with Augustus and Tiberius,was completed in the middle of the times of Tiberius. And that of the apostles, embracing the ministry of Paul, end with Nero.” (Miscellanies 7:17.) 

(On the Timing of John’s Banishment) 
“And to give you confidence, when you have thus truly repented, that there remains for you a trustworthy hope of salvation, hear a story that is no mere story, but a true account of John the apostle that has been handed down and preserved in memory. When after the death of the tyrant [previously identified as Nero] he removed from the island of Patmos to Ephesus, he used to journey by request to the neighboring districts of the Gentiles, in some places to appoint bishops, in others to regulate whole churches, in others to set among the clergy some one man, it may be, of those indicated by the Spirit.” (Who is the Rich Man that shall be Saved?; Section 42) 

The Muratorian Canon (A.D. 170) 
“the blessed Apostle Paul, following the rule of his predecessor John, writes to no more than seven churches by name.” 

“John too, indeed, in the Apocalypse, although he writes to only seven churches, yet addresses all. ” (ANF 5:603) 

Note on the Muratorian Canon: Sometime between A.D. 170 and 200, someone drew up a list of canonical books. This list, known as the Muratorian Canon, is the oldest Latin church document of Rome, and of very great importance for the history of the canon. The witness of this manuscript, which is from the very era of Irenaeus and just prior to Clement of Alexandria, virtually demands the early date for Revelation. The relevant portion of the document states that “the blessed Apostle Paul, following the rule of his predecessor John, writes to no more than seven churches by name” and “John too, indeed, in the Apocalypse, although he writes to only seven churches, yet addresses all.” The writer of the Canon clearly teaches that John preceded Paul in writing letters to seven churches. Yet, church historians are agreed that Paul died before A.D. 70, either in A.D. 67 or 68. 

Syriac Vulgate Bible (sixth century) 
“The Apocalypse of St. John, written in Patmos, whither John was sent by Nero Caesar.” (Opening Title for the Book of Revelation) 

Arethas (sixth century) 
“Arethas in the sixth century, applies the sixth seal to the destruction of Jerusalem (A.D. 70), adding that the Apocalypse was written before that event” (From Robert Jamieson, A. R. Fausset and David Brown Commentary Critical and Explanatory Notes on the Whole Bible, 1871) 

(On Revelation 6:12) “Some refer this to the siege of Jerusalem by Vespasian.” 

(On Revelation 7:1) “Here, then, were manifestly shown to the Evangelist what things were to befall the Jews in their war against the Romans, in the way of avenging the sufferings inflicted upon Christ.” 

(On Revelation 7:4) “When the Evangelist received these oracles, the destruction in which the Jews were involved was not yet inflicted by the Romans.” 

Papias (first century) 
“Because of a statement by Papias, an early church father, that John the Apostle was martyred before a.d. 70, the Johannine authorship has been questioned.” (John F. Walvoord on the Date of Revelation – The Bible Knowledge Commentary, p. 925) 

“A fragment is, however, attributed to Papias which states that “John the theologian and James his brother were killed by the Jews”. (Chapman, John. St. Papias. The Catholic Encyclopedia, Volume XI [Online Edition 2002].____________________________________________________

It may have been mentioned here before but the Syriac version of Revelation says Nero banished John to Patmos!! This was in the 2nd Century. Many other Early Church Members also state that Nero was the Emperor. Modern Scholars use Text clues and History clues to place the Date of Revelation. Advocates of the late date rely on a rather shaky acceptance of one man’s words (as well as it yet misguided people througout history who accepted Ireneaus’ words) who may have referred to someone else who was known with a similar name. (Domitianou (Nero) instead of Domitianikos ( Domitian)) even if Irenaeus was thinking of Domitian, he got that information from Polycarp who, along with Papias, where John’s disiples, so that should mean Irenaeus got it right? Not quite!  Irenaeus is known for off dating. He also states that Jesus was in His 50s when crucified. Papias, the other disiples of John, states that John was Martyred before 70 AD. 

When objectively looking after a deep look into this, there are 2 logical conclusions. 1) Irenaeus was talking about Domitianou (Nero) and was mistaken for Domitian by others…or 2) Irenaeus was wrong on this by misplacing the date of Revelation under Domitian instead of Nero just like He misplaced Jesus’ Crucifixion. A third conclusion which is unlikely is that Irenaues was meaning Domitian and was right about the late date while many other people and early writings were wrong. It seems like the majority would be correct. And now an in depth look at Irenaeus’ quote seems either be wrong or it doesnt even support the late date view. 

I hope this helps to clear up issues with Ireneaus’ quote. I will be post more soon and I got some interesting stuff coming so be sure to come back soon for another post. God Bless you all! 

Who wrote the Pentateuch?

The most popular view today, and perhaps for all of Christian history, Christians and even some Jews have believed that Moses wrote Genesis through Deuteronomy. But What if there were more authors to these books and none were Moses? This theory is called the JEPD Theory.  Here is a LONG excerpt from :

A) J, or Jahweh (Yahweh, YHWH)

The name given today to one such “author” of the Bible, that is, one of the voices or, better, schools of thought visible in the Pentateuch, is J. So called because this text refers to God as Jahweh (or Yahweh), J carries with it a unique outlook on the divine. The name JahwehJHWH in ancient Hebrew, a language which was originally written using consonants only—derives from the Hebrew verb “to be,” and implies something along the lines of “he causes to exist” or “he always exists.” Jahweh is the name revealed to Moses when he encounters God at the burning bush in Exodus (3:2).

Map of Palestine, ca. 800 BCE (click to see larger image)J also stands for “Judean,” since its author looks at life and culture from the perspective of the southern half of the Holy Lands, Judea (or Judah). The prominence of places in Judea is a clear feature of J’s style. J also displays overtones of bias against those Hebrews who lived in Israel proper, the northern counterpart to Judea in Palestine.

Though scholars dispute its chronology, J appears to be the oldest of the sources of the Bible, dating back possibly as far as the tenth century (ca. 900 BCE). Some evidence suggests a date of composition around the time of Solomon who is usually seen to have reigned from 940-900 BCE. But if so, later hands have intruded upon J and reworked it, adding prophesies of things to come centuries down the road, events the author—or authors—of J simply couldn’t have foreseen. All in all, J is both old and very old, having undergone revision several times before being written down in the form we have it.

The vision of God in J is fairly simple. He tends to appear, speak and leave, with relatively few discussions, explanations or angels in attendance. Also, he is called by several names, among others, “God of my father” (Genesis 32:9)—”father” here refers to Abraham—a patriotic, family-oriented designation attesting well to J’s primitivity.

This stands in stark contrast to other authors preserved in the Bible, whose complex theologies and attention to the international scene leave an impression of cosmopolitan sophistication. J, to the contrary, exhibits language much less elaborate, at least by comparison, reveling in puns and exciting narratives, hardly the tone typical of priests or bureaucrats. Inhabiting what one scholar calls an “uncluttered world,” J is in many ways the Herodotus of Hebrew culture.

As such, J provides some of the best reading in the Bible. Many of the most well-known and best beloved biblical stories come from J—Adam and Eve, Joseph, Moses, Exodus, the Burning Bush, to name but a few—or at least one version of those stories goes back to J, since Joseph’s and Moses’ histories, in particular, are retold several times in the Bible, each time somewhat differently.

Finally, if any general theme emerges from J, it is that the Hebrews will someday triumph in glory over all other peoples, clear evidence that the author of J did not know about the Fall of Israel in 722 BCE to the Assyrians, much less the far more disastrous Babylonian Captivity that followed a century later. And like its counterparts in Greek culture, J also presumes that study of the past leads to the explanation of things in the author’s world. So, for instance, the story of the Tower of Babel serves to explain why there were different languages in the ancient world. Likewise, the remains of Sodom and Gomorrah explicate the topography of the Holy Lands. This optimism, especially the view that history teaches important and comprehensible lessons, combined with a ready zeal to tell a good tale, characterizes the authorship of J and distinguishes it from other sources that contributed to the Hebrew Bible.

B) E, or Elohist

E, also called the “Elohist,” has a voice quite distinct from J but equal in clarity and probably close in age, too. E stands for Elohim, the name for God most often used by this author. Elohim is a variation on the Semitic root *el– meaning “god,” a word-base seen in place names like Beth-el, “House of God,” and the Arabic name for the principal deity in Islam, Allah. E also refers to Ephraim, another name for Israel where the text most likely originated.

In E, manifestations of God tend to be more complicated than in J. In addition to operating through angels and dreams as channels of communication, God discourses with humans more often and at greater length. However, that E involves sophisticated features such as these doesn’t necessarily imply that it’s later than J—linear evolution involving steady progress forward isn’t the only, or even the best, model for history of this sort—besides, at various junctures, J seems to be responding to E, as if the author of J had E in mind when he wrote. The truth is E and J were most likely contemporaneous in both composition and development. What distinguishes them is not time but perspective, that is, different views of God, history and especially geography, in this case, north versus south.

But the northerners—commonly referred to as “Israelites” in contrast to their southern brethren known as “Judeans”—were ultimately the losers in the greater concourse of events in the ancient Near East. As the Assyrians rose to supremacy and perpetrated their infamous savagery across the known world, Israel which was closer to them than Judea caught the brunt of their wrath first. Conquered, despoiled and displaced, the northern Hebrews lost their homeland, heritage and ultimately their claim on history, too. This is because in the confusion following the northerners’ fall the version of the past they embraced, their take on what-really-happened, had to be entrusted to their sibling rivals in Judea, and as the Bible’s poor relative, its first lost tribe, the Israelites’ vision of history fared poorly in the quilting process that formed the Pentateuch. E, in the end, got considerably less press and stage time than J.

Nevertheless, ancient and important histories find a home in E. In particular, it includes evidence of the cultural exchange between the Hebrews and their close relatives and neighbors, the Canaanites whose main cities lay nearer Israel than Judea and thus made a greater impact on northern as opposed to southern Hebrew culture. For instance, the name of the principal Canaanite deity is El (“God”), a name used for God in the Bible several times, especially in those parts of Genesis which derive from E.

However, in the Canaanite religious tradition as early as 1200 BCE, El was displaced by another god, his son Ba’al (“Lord”) who stole center stage from his father and eventually became the principal deity of the Canaanites. That timing coincides remarkably well with the use of El as a name for the Hebrew God in E. In other words, El was what the central god was called in early Canaanite culture, a world which the northern Hebrews shared intimately with their immediate neighbors, and so “El” was used as the name of their principal god, too.

This would seem to confirm the antiquity of E’s text, whose author would probably not have employed this name after the thirteenth century BCE when El was beginning to be displaced by Ba’al and was losing visibility in the local religion. Of course, as some scholars note, the use of the name El could also be a later fabrication added into certain Hebrew texts to give them the false ring of being genuinely ancient, in the same way that using “thou” and “thee” can make modern English seem archaic. But “El” is so pervasive and deeply entrenched as a name used by E that the evidence seems to point toward its authenticity, and thus the genuine antiquity of E.

C) P, or Priestly tradition

If E and J can be hard to discriminate at times, among the easier voices to identify in the Pentateuch is P, which stands for “the priestly tradition” and whose author views history from the vantage point of the cultic sector of Hebrew society. As can be expected of one trained in the Temple, P describes ritual in detail, but rarely explains the reasons behind the practice. This part of the Bible is responsible, for instance, for the injunction to circumcise male babies, but nothing in biblical text ever says why it’s necessary to do so. It is clearly not a rite of passage since it’s performed on infants and never associated with the bar mitzvah, the Jewish ritual inducting a teenage male into manhood. Instead, whatever purpose circumcision was seen to serve—and there must have been one originally—it’s left unstated, perhaps because the author himself didn’t know, inasmuch as he was a functionary and not a formulator of policy, without any direct insight into the reasoning underlying the regulations he recorded and enforced.

This is seen even more clearly in the litany of laws found in Leviticus, that complex “forest of detail” designed to ensure the purity of Hebrew society through a multitude of dietary, sexual and other restrictions. One scholar calls them a “jungle of lists and rules.” While many of these laws may seem at first glance haphazard—why can one eat locusts but not lobsters?—close investigation reveals a significant pattern in what is and isn’t permitted.

According to one scholar, the principle guiding this code of behavior is the ancient Israelites’ perception that the world is divided into “realms of existence“: land, sea and sky. As the by-products of God’s creation, these divisions were seen to be inviolate and thus should never be confused. So, when God says “Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear” (Genesis 1:9), it seems very clear that it is His will for these divisions to remain unbreached.

Logic dictates, then, that those creatures which appear to span different realms must live in defiance of God’s discrimination and should not be ingested since they behave contrary to holy creation. Lobsters, for instance, have no scales or fins, few of the sorts of things most sea creatures do and are obviously designed for moving though water. Instead, lobsters sport legs which are clearly an apparatus designed for life on land. Thus, endowed with a body type which apparently transgresses God’s natural boundaries, they were pronounced abominations (Lev. 11:9-13). Likewise, many birds of prey walk on legs but can fly too, and because of that are also forbidden fruit (Lev. 11:13-19).

The same logic extends into other spheres of life. A taboo against straddling “realms of existence” helps explain the commandment not to wear garments made of wool mixed with linen and to sow a field with different types of seed (Lev. 19:19). These activities involve the blending of things which are ostensibly discrete in nature as well.

A similar code of conduct governs sexual behavior. A holy man cannot, for instance, have sex with a woman who is menstruating (Lev. 15:19), since that would entail the mixing of blood and semen, fluids which according to P’s logic should never commingle. Nor can a high priest marry a widow, divorced woman or prostitute (Lev. 21:14), because in doing so he would cause his seed to be joined in the same organ with that of other men, and the structure of God’s divisible universe seems to suggest different men’s semen ought not to mix. From the same logic comes the injunction against male homosexuality (Lev. 18:22, 20:13). It’s interesting to note that Leviticus includes no such injunction against same-sex activity amidst women, presumably because behavior of this sort does not, at least on the surface, involve the conjunction of immiscible fluids.

P, however, underlies more than Leviticus and its myriad laws. According to many scholars, it’s responsible for nothing less than the opening lines of the Bible—”In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth”—and the subsequent verses running through Genesis 2:3, up to “And God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it.” The stress on the holiness of the Sabbath is paralleled later at some length in Leviticus 23, a stretch of text which is clearly P’s handiwork.

P also, no doubt, provided the original stories of the Great Flood and God’s subsequent covenant with Noah (Gen. 9), also the later covenant with Abraham (Gen. 17) as well as the construction of the desert tabernacle in direct symmetry with the architecture of the so-called “First Temple” in Jerusalem (Ex. 25-27). Also from P comes God’s promise issued on Mount Sinai of an enduring priesthood who will oversee the performance of rituals, thus ensuring the purity of the Hebrew people once they arrive in the promised land (Ex. 28-30).

Finally, among P’s many contributions to the Bible must be the protracted genealogies which add some tedious reading to the Pentateuch—as one Biblical scholar has been heard to say, “Priests can be pretty boring!”—and include with that the gruesome descriptions of pustulous wounds found in Leviticus 13. Who cares about white hairs inside a boil, except a priest dedicated to maintaining the purity of society at large! Thus, focused on regulations and conduct and the proper way to assess and deal with “imperfections” of the body, be it personal or politic, it seems safe to assume that the author of P lived in a world where the Temple and its officiators were firmly entrenched as part of the Hebrew community.

More than that, however, it’s also reasonable to suppose that the need to write down so many laws in such meticulous detail presumes a challenge of some sort to the authority of the priesthood. For that reason, many scholars look again to the Babylonian Captivity, when the Hebrews were cut away from their Temple and its rituals, for in this age the very existence of the priests was threatened. It is not unnatural to expect them to counter this threat by laying down the letter of the law.

Thus, P is conventionally dated to some time after Cyrus’ restoration of the Hebrews to Jerusalem in the 530’s BCE, more often in the next century, making it one of the more recent voices in the Pentateuch, much later than J and E. Indeed, it seems to pull from and meld both those early texts—which presupposes both had already been set down—for instance, P refers to God as Elohim until the appellation JHWH is revealed to Moses, after which it uses that name.

That assumption rested comfortably in the minds of many scholars of the modern age, until a small silver scroll was discovered on which was inscribed the famous Priestly Blessing from Numbers (6:24-26)—it begins “May the Lord bless you and keep you . . .”—this prayer clearly came from P. It was also obvious that this scroll had been engraved before 600 BCE—the style of the writing on it guaranteed so much—which meant that at least this much of P belonged to an age preceding the Babylonian Captivity. Suddenly, confining the composition of P to a single century was not as simple as some had once asserted.

The inescapable conclusion was that, like the other texts which were woven together to create the Pentateuch, P underwent considerable evolution. If some parts were much older than it was previously supposed, the same, no doubt, was also true of P’s essential thrust, the importance of determining and following God’s specific laws. Thus, P and the Temple Priesthood had far deeper roots in the scriptures than it had seemed at first glance. Or to put it in more biblical terms, “And on the eighth day, God created bureaucracy.”

D) D, or the Deuteronomist

The last and latest of the sources underlying the Pentateuch is D, a text seen almost exclusively in Deuteronomy—few scholars today, for instance, would situate any of D in Genesis—it is, instead, the work of a compiler assembling different histories but speaking with a clear purpose and perspective, that is, the view from the ruins of a state under siege. Over and over, D stresses that the sins of the Hebrews will stir God’s wrath and land them one day in bondage. Framed as prophesies from former Biblical greats like Samuel, Joshua and even Moses, the words of D revolve around the errors of the past and the hope of future redemption.

D’s voice is also one of the best educated and most eloquent in the Bible, as one might expect of an author who could look back over centuries of scripture and forge a style that met the demands of a Hebrew readership still deeply entrenched in its own history and culture but at the same time more sophisticated and wiser about the world at large. Fully articulated speeches, such as Moses’ which opens Deuteronomy, for the first time find a home in the Bible. The haranguing orator with fond dreams of improving his people through the beauty of the spoken word is a type evidenced in many an urbanized and advanced civilization, but certainly nowhere better than in D.

Another theme which resonates throughout Deuteronomy, revealing a different dream its author cherished fondly, is the primary importance of the First Temple in ancient Jewish life. The notion that Jerusalem should serve not only as the center of religious life for all Hebrew people but as the only valid site to worship God is, in effect, a denunciation of other religious practices. Indeed, modern archaeological research has confirmed that there were ceremonies being held in honor of Jahweh outside Jerusalem at this time (see below). And because other evidence suggests that the notion of the First Temple’s exclusive priority developed fairly late in the evolution of Hebrew theology, D is uniquely datable.

At 2 Kings 22, the Old Testament recounts the unexpected discovery of an ancient law text dug up accidentally when workers were refurbishing the Temple. According to the Bible, this long-lost legal code was brought to Josiah, the King of Judea at the time (r. ca. 640-625 BCE). When he read it, he was aghast to see commandments forbidding certain religious practices, rituals which had once been employed by the Israelites, the Judeans’ erstwhile brethren whose state the Assyrians had obliterated a century before. And along with the prediction and explication of Israel’s demise came the promise of a new path to salvation, one—rest assured!—God approved of more certainly. It foretold that, as long as Josiah avoided the mistakes of his long-lost northern kin: “. . . thou shalt be gathered into thy grave in peace, and thine eyes shall not see all the evil which I will bring upon this place.” (2 Kings 23:20). The Judeans, the southern Hebrews, did indeed witness a modest if short-lived prosperity during Josiah’s reign, so it must have looked as if the times confirmed the divine protection this buried book had proffered.

Though riddled with invented history, this story probably stems from a real historical event, the writing of Deuteronomy which was disguised as the book’s “discovery and publication” and recorded as such in Second Kings. The tale it told of sin and salvation surely resonated among the later Hebrews, especially those who had survived Nebuchadnezzar’s siege of 586 which gave the work new life—and perhaps a few new words as well—along with a position of prominence in biblical scripture, its fourth-place finish in the Pentateuch sweepstakes. If this is so, as with none of the other texts which have been quilted together to create the first five books of the Old Testament, we can set D in a particular time and place in the past, indeed put it into the hands of a specific type of personality with distinct views and goals, making it unprecedentedly “historical.”



Evidence to support this?

Well, first we have the usage of Different names for God. Yes, they show different characteristics of God, but this is evidence that supports the JEPD Theory, but it doesn’t entirely prove it.

Other evidence is that there are stories that appear either to contradict itself, or be repetitive and change a couple things the second time. Examples are:

  1. Genesis 1 and 2 contradict each other in the order of creation as well as a different name of God. Humans, in Gen. 1, were made after all animals and plants. But in Genesis 2, Humans were made before Animals and Plants. Genesis 1 says Man and Woman humans were made simultaneously, whereas Genesis 2 says Man was made before Woman.
  2.  The Pentateuch seems divided on what to eat. After the Flood, God says Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you Genesis 9:3….but in Deuteronomy 14:7-8 and Leviticus 11:2-4 it says that there are certain meats you can eat.
  3. How many animals on Noah’s Ark?


    Of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark. Genesis 6:19Of clean beasts, and of beasts that are not clean, and of fowls, and of every thing that creepeth upon the earth, There went in two and two unto Noah into the ark, the male and the female, as God had commanded Noah. Genesis 7:8-9

    Every beast after his kind, and all the cattle after their kind, and every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind, and every fowl after his kind, every bird of every sort. And they went in unto Noah into the ark, two and two of all flesh, wherein is the breath of life. Genesis 7:14-15


    Of every clean beast thou shalt take thee by sevens, the male and his female. Genesis 7:2

  4. Genesis 7:7-10 contradicts Genesis 7:11-13. The first passage says Noah entered the ark 7 days before the flood came but the second passage says it was on the same day.

These are only 4 out of many contradicting things in the Pentateuch. If the JEPD Theory is true, and most likely is, then the different Authors’ (Y, E, P, and D) writings would have been mashed together to make the Pentateuch.

What does this mean now?

These findings do impact a Christian, Jew,and even a Muslim, since all three religions use the Pentateuch. I would say that this means that the whole Pentateuch was not literal history (100% factual) and was meant, for the ancient people, a way to explain many things. An example is the Tower of Babel, which to them explained the existence of different languages. 

If the Penteteuch isnt 100% history, does this impact Christ or any central beliefs to Christianity? Yes and no. It does affect it but not in a lethal way. It means that Christ was using ancient Jewish knowledge to explain various things to them. Often He said Moses wrote things. Does this mean he is lying? No! Should Jesus have corrected them and tell then that Moses was the writer but 4+ other writers wrote the Penteteuch? Absolutely not!! It would have distracted Jews from the Message by filling their minds with facts that aren’t necessary for the central message. If trying to figure out who wrote what and the evidence for it is distracting to the message, then give up and focus on the message. The message is more important than who the author is.

I hope this helps in some way. Remember, this does not mean the rest of the Bible is automatically false.

The Vredefort crater

Recently, I remembered a crater in South Africa when I read about it in a book called “Improbable Planet” by Hugh Ross. This Crater is 300 Km in diameter or about 186 1/2 miles. This crater impacted Earth about 2.023 billion years (± 4 million years) ago. So why am I writing a post about this? Well, this COMPLETELY falsifies young earth creationism, and Flat earth Creationism. Sadly, off topic though, but I have seen an increase in many websites and YouTube videos that claim to know or can prove the earth is flat, and that space is a lie….ya right! Anyways, back on topic…

This crater disproves a young earth, why? Well, first of all, nobody in recorded history has ever described a meteor hitting south Africa or even the effect of the impact. Oh the impacts this impact would’ve had on Israel!! Do you know what even a quarter mile (1/4 mile) wide meteor would do?

From Quartz:

The result would surely be impressive: The crater would be about twice the width of Manhattan, and about as deep as the newly constructed Freedom Tower in New York is tall. More than one hundred million cubic meters of rock would be instantly vaporized on impact. The shaking produced would be equivalent of a 7.0 earthquake.

If you were standing about 60 miles (100 km) from the impact site, within two minutes you’d be pelted with debris up to about two inches in size. Within five minutes, the air blast generated by the heat of the impact would create hurricane force winds, shattering your windows.

If you were standing within about 20 miles away (30 km) —for reference, New York City is roughly 20 miles wide—the effects would be much more serious. The average fragment size headed your way would be about the size of a dishwasher, and within 90 seconds wind speeds would top 500 miles per hour. Over 90% of trees, buildings, bridges—pretty much anything, really—would be blown down. Not a pretty picture.

Also, if a meter about 10 Km, or  hit earth, it wouldn’t be good. An excerpt from Ask an Astronomer from :

For an asteroid 10 km in diameter, it doesn’t matter where it hits, ocean or dry land. Remember that the depest point in the oceans is in the Mariana Trench, and is only 11 km deep! Also, a typical speed for meteorites is around 30 kilometers per second. An asteroid 10 kilometers across is so massive that it’s very hard to slow it down. Unlike smaller meteors, it will not be slowed down much by air friction. It will punch through the atmosphere like it’s hardly even there. When it reaches the surface, it will smack so hard that it won’t matter if it strikes ocean or land.

The imapact with the earth’s crust will finally stop the asteroid. The energy of the impact will vaporize the asteroid and a large amount of the Earth’s crust, creating a crater more than one hundred kilometers across, throwing all that rock into the air.

Some of this debris will be going so fast that it will fly right out of the Earth’s atmosphere and go into orbit around the Earth. Most of the debris will rain back down on the Earth–every part of the Earth, not just near the impact site–heating the atmopshere until it’s like the inside of an oven, triggering forest fires and cooking anything that isn’t sheltered underground.

The combination of dust from the impact and soot from the forest fires will remain in the Earth’s atmosphere for a year or so, blocking the light of the Sun. Without sunlight, much of the Earth’s plantlife, on land and in the sea, will die.

Many species of animals–including the human race, if we aren’t both lucky and resourceful!–will die out, either in the initial catastrophe, or in the ensuing years due to lack of food and the general devastation of the environment.

The last time this happened was 65 million years ago, when an asteroid struck the Earth, creating the Chicxulub Crater in Mexico and causing the extinction of the dinosaurs. On average, an asteroid this size strikes the Earth every 50 to 100 million years.

So, if a 10 km meter would do THIS MUCH damage, then imagine a 300 KM METEOR!!!!!!! Dude that would wipe out EVERYTHING pretty much! Maybe exaggerating but it would still be BIG!

If the Vredefort crater was created in 4,000 BC or any time since, You, me, your dog (if you have one), your neighbors, etc. would NOT be here today! No matter what YECs do, I don’t think they can get past this. Before the Fall, according to YECs, nothing bad happened. Which means crater impacts could not have been part of God’s creative process in the “6 day creation”, according to YEC.

A 60 Mile wide meteor is enough to destroy ALL life! So 186 mile wide meteor is definitely enough to destroy life!

The Vredefort Crater makes some pretty hard challenges for Young Earth Creationism to overcome. The Impact did not happen during the Flood. IF it did, Noah would have died.

Hope this helps in some way!

Moses: Fact or Fiction?

If you’ve read around my blog, you know that I am troubled by the Pentateuch in general. In particular, I am becoming skeptical about Moses. There have been much evidence from historical documents and archaeology that shows that the Moses story in the Bible either didn’t happen or it was on a much smaller scale. Another thing comes from the Bible itself….adding up the genealogies gives us a 259 year gap between Moses and the actual Exodus. Link is Anti- Bible but it gives evidence that Moses may not have been real

There have also been many different ancient stories about Moses. From a war criminal to an Atheist, Moses clearly has had some weird stories about Him. So I will list the different stories below:

  1. Egyptian Historian Manetho wrote that Moses was really a war criminal who made lepers fight against Egypt. Then creating the Jewish Laws to be the exact opposite of Egypt.
  2. Greek Historian Strabo wrote that Moses was really just a philosopher and never talked to God.
  3. A Jew, Atrapanus wrote that Moses was a War hero in Egypt. He was sent by his father, the Ruler of Upper Egypt, with the worst soldiers against Ethiopia hoping He would die, but Moses conquered Ethiopia and later throughout His life would start 3 different religions
  4. Roman Historian Tacitus, which I refer to a lot in my End Times  studies, wrote that Moses got leprosy with other people from Pork so they were expelled and Moses then decided to tell the other lepers to turn against god and men. When they all reached Canaan, Moses made a new religion to get support from His people and he invented the Kosher diet because Pork gave them the leprosy.

As we can see, these all can explain a lot of things, such as why the Kosher diet was invented (#4). We even see that Jews themselves weren’t in complete agreement on what Moses did and who he was.

Whether Moses was real or not doesn’t change what Jesus did. Hope this helps in some way.


Who did Jesus save at the Cross? And are people going to Hell?

This is kind of a 2 part discussion but ultimately go together. First we will talk about Hell, and then we will discuss who Jesus saved at the Cross.

What is hell?

The traditional or more popular view is that hell is the eternal punishment from God on unbelievers for rejecting the Gospel.  The origin of this Hell actually is Pagan. Greek Mythology, Egyptian Mythology, Roman Mythology, etc. all had an idea of Hell before it was introduced to Christianity in the 2nd Century. The idea of Paul, was that if you are saved or a believer, then you go to heaven, but if you aren’t, you will perish. Not go to hell, but literally just cease to exist. you will go to sleep without ever waking up basically.  This is what Paul meant by perish. A soul alive and tortured in hell is by no means dead. The soul is still alive but is being tortured. I have learned many times that Christianity, even protestant Churches, as well as Catholic Churches have a lot of pagan ideas. Examples? Hell, Devil, Demons, Easter, Christmas, etc. Most of these are a result of the Pagan Roman Empire adopting Christianity into their empire. I have no issue with Christianity being adopted into an empire, but that fact that it was adopting pagan views is seriously wrong. Jesus never taught hell. He always used the word Gehenna, which was referencing a valley outside of Jerusalem. He often was referring to the coming judgement on Israel in 70 AD. Matthew 24 and Luke 21 (also Revelation but that’s a different subject), they all correspond perfectly to the Roman-Jewish War. Jesus was warning the Jews to accept Jesus and be saved from the coming wrath of the Romans. Christians in the Roman-Jewish War, escaped the Romans by taking Jesus’ warning to flee Judea. Why did they leave? because they Believed Jesus! You aren’t going to be saved and listen if you don’t accept Jesus!! Jesus saved ALL men, not just a few, or half, ALL MEN. Hell is lie used to scare people into being Christian. I was and that’s why I became a Christian…well kind of. It was more like I quit focusing on God then I watched a video on Hell and it scared the heck out of me. God doesn’t want us to be scared into believing Him. Back to the Jesus thing. Jesus saved ALL men. Not just believers. 1 Tim. 4:10 says that “Christ is the Savior of all men, especially those who believe.” So what is this referring to? Not the Roman Jewish war because the believers were saved from being killed but the Jews rejecting Him died in Jerusalem’s destruction. It refers to Us and our salvation. Christ is now our mediator to God. We can’t always fulfill the Law that was placed under us in the Old Covenant. Now Jesus mediates for us in heaven and tells the Father he already paid for our sins. Most people can never keep the first commandment. So already we have a problem. Even Christians have a hard time. But the GOOD NEWS is Jesus saved us from eternal death! After 70 AD, with the passing of the Old Covenant, All humans are now raised and will not experience eternal damnation.  This has always been a burden on Christians. Many people have turned from Christianity because they don’t want to be involved with believing a loving God would even punish a life that had 80 years of sin, for eternity. that is just tarnishing God’s Love!! I’m 15, but if I had a son, and He broke my laptop, I would not punish him for even a year! I may be mad, or even consider it out of madness, but I wouldn’t really do it. But with God, He can’t even consider it because He is all loving and if He loves His Children more than His angels, than surely he would have a way to save them ALL! Not just a handful or a little pinch. if so, then God’s love FAILED at the Cross! Paul even Said in Romans 5:18 that ALL men are died because of Adam, but now ALL men are alive because of Christ. Paul makes a distinctive parallel here. ALL die in Adam, ALL live in Christ. NOT some live in Christ, but ALL live. And living does not mean going to Hell, or being annihilated. Christ saved us all!! So what about Hell? well, as I’ve said before, hell has never existed. Hades, Sheol, Tarterus all refer to the Grave, not hell. David even said that God would be with Him in the Grave…God is not with us in Hell, according to Hell’s definition. But what about the Lake of Fire? The lake of Fire was also Gehenna but explained in a different way. Jesus in Matthew 24 and Luke 21 warned about being thrown into Gehenna or where there is “weeping and gnashing of the teeth”. Jesus was referring to, as I’ve said before, the valley outside of Jerusalem where they burn stuff day and night (to Jews it would seem like an eternal fire that is never quenched because it never quits burning). In Revelation, it is practically the same thing. Gehenna, the valley, became a “lake of Fire” in the destruction of Jerusalem. Also, Fire represents some kind of destruction. So in Revelation is says Satan and death, as well as the grave was thrown in the lake of Fire. Satan, death, the grave have power under the law. Satan can accuse of of not fulfilling the Law, because of that, we die, and go to the grave. But because Jesus died on the cross, and destroyed the Old Covenant LAW in 70 AD, Death, Satan, and the Grave, no longer have power over us. Everyone is alive because of Christ. He came to redeem the WHOLE  world. Not some small group of people and then send everyone else to hell. That means we have to WORK to go to heaven by believing and work toward a relationship with Christ. I believe we SHOULD, but some people NEVER hear the name Jesus in their entire lives. So what then? Do they God to hell? What about the people who DO hear about Christ but reject him because they are muslim and their parents say not to accept him and then dies a week later? The muslim kid is young and they are OBEYING their parents just like God wants us to! So do they go to hell for being obedient? Do the they go to hell because they are young and still rely on their parents? NO! Jesus knew the multiple situations people would be in. He came to redeem the world!

So why did Jesus tell people to believe in Jesus and they will be saved?

I explain this before but not in detail. So, when Jesus says “not all who will call upon the Lord will be saved”, He means that not all people who Believe in Christ will be saved from the persecution brought on from the Jews and Romans. All the Apostles, except John (Revelation), were not Saved from the persecution. Not all Christians were saved from the persecution. But some were. The Christians that took Jesus’ warnings and left Jerusalem when they saw the signs, they were saved from the Romans. But the Jews weren’t. Why? Because they did not follow Jesus. And if you don’t follow Jesus, you won’t believe what He says. So that is why Jesus told the Jews to believe Him. But many did not and they died. If you read Jesus’ warnings like I just described, they make so much sense. And if you read Romans 5:18, 1 Timothy 4:10, and other passages saying Jesus saved the WHOLE world and ALL men, then it also makes sense.

I’m not twisting Scripture. I’m fitting it with the EVIDENCE. If this stuff bugs you, then too bad, because this is the truth that Jesus wanted preaching. He never meant to preach about hell or eternal torment! an 80 year life of Sin is not justified by eternal torture. Even God knows this. God’s love NEVER fails. IF His love NEVER fails, why would it FAIL on Atheists or Hindus, or Muslims, etc. His love can NEVER FAIL. But it would fail if even the SMALLEST percent of people go to Hell or lake of fire to be tortured for ever. I’d rather just poof out of existence but God doesn’t want that. He want’s us ALL to be in Heaven with him. Most people turn away from Christianity because they can’t deal with hell or they are scared into being a Christian. They feel like they are being forced into believing. God NEVER wanted this. Being scared into believing something isn’t really sincerely believing. It’s just a “get out of hell” free card to them. But if everyone really knew the truth, they would more than likely follow Jesus. If we take out all the nonsense the Church has added to Christianity since the 2nd Century, we could actually make some progress in the world. The Church has added so many pagan things to Christianity that Christianity is practically pagan now.

I hope this helps you see the truth of how Salvation was given to everyone no matter what because of God’s love, Grace, and mercy. There is NO Hell. Satan, those who followed him (demons), (spiritual) death, and the grave are all now destroyed! God bless you! And spread the good news!!

My trip and thoughts of the Ark Encounter.

Ok, so I went to the Ark Encounter on March 23, 2017. It was a school field trip but I will try to stick with just the Ark itself. So before I begin I want to say that the Ark is absolutely fantastic. The structure and size is amazing and the sound effects are great. The animals looked awesome and the zoo was great too, i got to hang with some goats 😂. Even as an Evolutionary creationist, I believe Noah’s Flood was regional, not global.

Ok so while I really liked the Ark itself, the stuff taught and shown in there was not accurate with the Bible and Science. 


Obviously, they showed dinosaurs and some other long extinct animals. Some YECs think Dinosaurs weren’t on the Ark. Most do though. But anyway, YECs say that since Genesis says that two of all land animals of the earth (or Land, as it should properly be translated) will go on the Ark then Dinosaurs would’ve definitely gone on the Ark. But would Dinosaurs being extinct millions of years ago contradict that? No! If today I were to say All land animals will come to my house…but dinosaurs dont come…that doesn’t contradict anything if Dinosaurs are already extinct. It is talking about present animals that are alive. Another thing that adds to this is the assumption that it was less than 2,000 years after Adam. Based on genealogies, the Hebrew word “ab” meaning father, can refer to grandfather or possibly farther. This is seen in Genesis 32:9. (see my posts on genealogies for more reference). The genealogies may not be complete. It doesnt destroy God’s word though. 

Fossils and layers

The view they presented of fossil distribution was that sea creatures would be buried first, then continue till birds or high land animals. This is not true at all. If you look at the chart below (which is accurate in the fossils it shows) you will notice a shell which would belong to a sea animal buried after (above) a Trex. This invalidates the YEC view.Geologic layers.jpg

Ice Age

The Ice age isn’t always discussed  in the age of the earth (“creation/evolution” which is a false conflict) debate. However, the Ark portrays the last ice age at 4,000 years ago but NO evidence what so ever, scientifically or Scripturally, shows a recend ice age. I honestly wasnt impressed. Another thing is the snow layers that they used. they said a plane that was buried in 1942 was uncovered in 1988. They found that in 46 years, there had accumulated 250 feet of snow, thus proving Noah’s flood. But is this really accurate? No. Another plane went down in 1962 and was uncovered in 1995. Guess what? NO SNOW! It depends on where it lands. Obviously we cant use snow layers in Mexico because it would all be water. But if we use it in certain area like some parts of greenland or Antartica we can find tue average snow fall. The average snowfall a year of the east coast is 7 feet a year. where as in the middle of greenland where the 2nd plane crashed, it receives 0.3m/1 foot per year.  we cant just assume snowfall is the same everywhere like Ken Ham does. In Antaritca, the layers may be thinner than it is in Greenland. So in Antartica you may have 4 feet layers and in Greenland, 7 feet layers. I dont know Antarctica’s snowfall or layer width. But you get the point. The planes crashed are not evidence against Ice layer dating. 

Other thoughts

I forget a little more because I am writing this a week after I went. (😂 Stupid memory loss) I just want to say that the Facts Ken Ham presents in the Ark is not accurate. He assumes a literal interpretation of the Bible which I clearly “debunk” in other articles. Such as Historical and Archeological studies show there was probably no Exodus of Israelites out of Egypt. so we must interpret it figuratively or as a parable. But Ken Ham is also scoentifically inaccurate. He assumes everything today behaves the same as yesterday or millions of years ago ( or in his view…thousands of years ago). Example is the magnetic field and the moon. Him and other YECs assume the moons recursion and tue magnetic field decay rate has always been the same despite scientific studies that show they have changed.

I hope this gives you an idea of what I experienced. However, I highly reccomend going. Why? you may ask…well firstly, it is really cool. If you still believe Noah’s flood is literal but regional, its still worth seeing what the ark lookes like and how big it is. But also, to learn YEC argument that will equip you for refuting YEC or defending your view, whether OEC or EC. God Bless and see you next post 😊 

Fitting Aliens, Evolution, mythical Devil/Demons and Preterism with Jesus and the Bible

So, if you know all my views, then you may be wondering How I truly fit them all together. Well, I will tell you but it will be rather lengthy so free up some time, grab food and drinks, and let’s start.

Firstly, If you HAVEN’T read my blog at all or even a little, Go to these links to gather some background:

Old Earth BlogMy Views , End Times Aliens and the BibleEvolution, and Random Thoughts or Rants. Each link, except the 2nd one, has links to various blog posts that describe my views and support for them. Please try to understand my views before I start this post So you don’t get confused or misunderstand me for believing in false things.

So let’s start this journey of fitting it all together:


The Beginning of the Universe to Genesis:

So, in the beginning, God started the Big Bang. (If you don’t know my views, I take Genesis 1 and 2 as mostly as stories but not literal) During the Billions of years to come, God guided the Universe through Natural processes to develop the Universe. Now, this is where I start with Aliens. If you do or do not know, I have no issue with Abiogenesis even as a Christian. So, there’s 2 options that would explain the existence of Aliens: Either they were formed through abiogenesis or they were supernaturally created by God which are what the Bible refers to as “angels” and I will get into this later. So the reason why I believe Aliens became intelligent before Humans is because Ezekiel 1 as well as the Book of Enoch (non-canonical book that almost made it into the main Protestant and Catholic Bibles) record UFOs as well as being taken up into Space (“heavens”). I get into this later too. But then eventually, the Earth is formed and eventually, life forms, whether abiogenesis or supernatural intervention, are formed too. Over time life evolved and things happened. Then Humans (Homo Sapiens) come onto the scene. I believe that when Humans became smart enough, maybe between 120,000-45,000 year ago, God revealed himself to Humanity. (Why the big gap in years? Well because homo sapiens no matter what time period in their/our existence, we have always been more intelligent than most Creatures. We have a bigger mind capacity. So it’s hard to tell when exactly we became spiritual, religious, etc.). Before God revealed himself to us, we couldn’t sin because we didn’t know right from wrong. We didn’t know what God wanted or what his rules were. Then when God told us and we rebelled, then that’s when we fell somehow. (I do not really know how we fell or when. Genesis was written by multiple people and not Moses (most likely)…links at the end on this) So Mankind rebels against God for  a long time. According to various studies I’ve had, Satan does not necessarily mean the Supernatural Monster or Fallen Angel. Satan simply means Adversary. Take for example: 

Samuel 24:1 And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah. This is the same story in Chronicles 24:1 And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.

These are parallel verses…So was it God or Satan? Well, both in a way. Not the satan you think. Satan is just an adversary. I suggest you read this site called They have a great book called “Satan: Christianity’s other god” It will explain more. So if you don’t feel like reading a lot on that site, just know that I do NOT Believe in the supernatural fallen angel, demon, satan. he was made up so we could place blame on our sins or its just an unfortunate misunderstanding of the Bible.

Now this is where it gets a little shaky. Historical evidence ACTUALLY supports that Genesis through Deuteronomy were not Historically accurate. Now the principles maybe, but evidence from Egyptian archaeology as well as other historical evidence suggests there was no historical exodus or also that Israelites actually came from Canaanite people, they did not conquest the canaanites instead Israelites were local people. Evidence shows that these stories were written during the Babylonian Exile in the years 597-538 BC. During this period, also known as the Babylonian Captivity, little is known about the Jews in Judah (Israel was a separate Country if you remember Jeroboam and Rehoboam). So, during the Babylonian Exile, The Pentateuch (Torah or Genesis – Deuteronomy) was partially written and compiled. This also provides many aspects of why the language used is the way it is like the clean and unclean animals in Noah’s Ark even if those terms weren’t established centuties later till, supposedly Leviticus when Moses was alive.

 An excerpt from Ancient-Origins says:

The Biblical story of the great man is full of contradictions and puzzles. Unlike the story of Joseph which has a discernable beginning, middle and end, Moses’ narrative is scattered and disjointed. At first we are led to believe that he is a first child; only for it to be revealed later that he has older siblings. We’re told he was adopted by an Egyptian princess but no details of his childhood are offered. The only account of his death is sketchy to say the least and no one knows where one of the most significant figures in history is buried

So, Moses may not have been a real person. Whether or not, God’s word is still true. It could just be that these stories are particularly Parables like Jesus’ Parables. 

After the Deuteronomy

After the first five books of the Bible is where we get into the History which agrees with archaeology and other historical writings. Israel went through history like it says. But in various places such as Ezekiel 1, UFOs or Aliens come to Earth and interact with Humans. I will do a post on a detailed account of Ezekiel in light of a UFO. It will be “here” once I get it done. Anyways, UFOs and Aliens during this period of History influenced many religions from the Native Americans to ancient Egypt. UFOs or Aliens also were in contact with Israelites. They would send messages from God. How they Got the messages? Who knows. But in the Bible, heavens always meant up in the sky which they thought was where Heaven was, but in reality, it isn’t. God is a spirit. But hey, God can do anything right?  So anyways, a lot of times in the Old Testament, when it describes “Chariots of God” it might be referring to UFOs. This isn’t anything Bad. Remember, God can use ANYTHING for His glory. I won’t get into too much detail about the Old testament as much because it’s a lot but most of it is either straightforward history or prophecy. So the Prophecies in there were for Jesus. 

New Testament:

Matthew -John

Now, after 400 or so years after Malachi, the last prophet of God, Jesus was born.Some Atheists say Jesus was an Alien, but there is no proof of that other than His Resurrection.  But as Christians, we know that His resurrection was genuine and not some Alien. I mean, I suppose if you think about it, maybe Jesus could’ve ascended into a UFO and then went into Heaven itself through a portal or something…but that seems to sci-fi for reality and it seems a little bogus. Anyways, Jesus’ earthly ministry is known well so I’m not getting into too much detail. But I want to talk about a couple things. Firstly, The “demons” in the gospels that Jesus encounters, is actually most likely diseases. Visit my demons post for more information. Second, Jesus condemned the Jews for going along with Tradition. We need to learn a lesson from this. We CAN’T just rely on tradition. we MUST study ourselves what the Bible says and what science says. Not much will be said here since the stuff is pretty straight forward.


I can’t say much on these because my beliefs on various things don’t affect these books as much. But i will say a couple things. Firstly, when they refer to satan or devil or whatever, they are referring to adversaries, not a supernatural being, or as some people put it: “The 2nd god of Christianity” or “the god of evil”. Second, It’s kinda off topic, but I think we should look at the gospels more instead of these to look at foundational beliefs of Christianity or followers of Christ.(I like the term Followers of Christ to describe me and people similar to me because the Christian church, Catholic Church, or just Christinaity the religion in general seems misguided sometimes with doctrines and tradition). Anyways, third thing is Hebrews 8:13 gives us support for when the Old Covenant was actually destroyed and when the new Covenant was established. Hebrews was written before 70 AD. This verse supports that the Old Covenant wasnt fully destroyed at the cross but in 70 AD. This is the “End of the Age” event described in Matthew 24, Luke 21, and Revelation. 


This is where it gets a little more interesting. I believe Revelation was fulfilled in 70 AD, or after the Crusades. the 2 views I am still working out but leaning more toward the 70 Ad one because i think it has more support. So basically, the great tribulation happened during the Roman Jewish War. The Roman Empire was the beast out of the Sea and the Old Covenant Jews, or the Zealots and the Jewish leaders.(Revelation 13). Babylon was Jerusalem who was the woman who was in partner ship with the beast (Rome) who then was attacked by the beast and destroyed (70 AD destruction)  There were many False prophets such as one recorded to have told Jews if they went on top of the temple they would be raptured, basically, but they weren’t; which fulfilled Matthew 24:24. Matthew 24 was fulfilled in 66 Ad-70Ad. I know we are talking about revelation but Here is an outline of Matthew 24/Revelation/ and History  :

  1. Matthew 24 (False Christs, earthquakes, and being persecuted and betrayed)some are fulfilled as shown in this link
  2. Matthew 24 = Birth pains or “woe to pregnant women” = During the Roman Jewish War, more specifically, the Siege of Jerusalem, when Jerusalem was surrounded, people lost food supplies and women ate their babies. It literally ended up being cannibalism in Jerusalem when it was surrounded by the Roman Army
  3. This next fulfillment is kinda of a 2 part fulfillment. Matthew 24:30 says that Christ will come back riding on a cloud. This literally happened in 66 AD. Josephus and Tacitus record this event. Go here for more details. In 66 AD, A vision from everyone in Jerusalem and of all the land (Judea/Israel) saw this. Now, this also fulfills another prophecy. In Luke 21:20-21, a parallel to Matt 24, Jesus says that when they saw Jerusalem surrounded by Armies, then flee Jerusalem. Well, when Jesus was seen on clouds in ~66 Ad, He had an army fighting another army in the air which surrounded the city in the sky. So, historically, Christian of that time understood this and actually fled to the mountains. Then after they left is when Jerusalem was hit hard. It also could be that they saw the Roman soldiers coming to Jerusalem.
  4. Revelation 13 = Rome is the Sea beast/ Jerusalem and anti-Christian Jews were the Land Beast/ The Mark of the Beast was worship and loyalty to the Roman Emperor.
  5. Revelation 14 =
  6. Revelation 15 =
  7. Revelation 16 =
  8. Revelation 17 = The Woman (Babylon) which is Jerusalem sitting upon the Beast (Roman Empire) which is also said to be many nations, and tongues. The Beast and the Women are in partnership in persecution of the early Church. But them the Beast (Rome) turns on Babylon (Jerusalem) and destroys her (destruction of Jerusalem, 70 AD)
  9. Revelation 18 = Fall of Jerusalem in 70 Ad is the fall of Babylon. More at Pursuing Truth Rev 18. Commentary and revelation revolution: Revelation-18
  10. Revelation 19 = and
  11. Revelation 20 = This is a conflicting chapter for me. Some Full Preterists say the millennium was the 40 years or so between Jesus and 70 AD, some others say it was the 1,000 years between 70 Ad and 1071 AD or the crusades, I tend to go to the 70 AD fulfillment.  Go here for a good explanation ( Now, the Beast and the False prophet, and Satan are cast into the lake at the end of the millenium. They no longer have power anymore. And I will get into Satan and what it means in this passage in a minute.
  12. Revelation 21 = Assuming the Millennium was in the 1st century, The New Heavens and Earth come after the millennium. The New Heavens and Earth as I said in my post, I say that the New Heaven and Earth is part of the New Covenant. Remember, 1 Corinthians 5:17  it says that if anyone is in Christ, then the New Creation has come. Now somethings seem not to correlate 100% nice and neat or black and white. But in the New Covenant we are made in Christ which means the New Creation or the New Heavens and Earth have come. This is why after 70 AD, when the New Covenant was fully established and the passing away of the Old Covenant (See Hebrews 8:13 and When did the Old covenant pass away? for support) the New Heavens and Earth came. The New Jerusalem, which I also go over in the same post, I point out that New Jerusalem is the Kingdom of God as well as the Church. Which leads us to Revelation 22
  13. Revelation 22 = in verses 1-5, The river flowing from the throne of God and down the middle of the street of the city is a symbol of the Holy Spirit as is implied in John 7:38-39: “Whoever believes in me, as Scripture has said, rivers of living water will flow from within them.”  By this he meant the [Holy] Spirit, whom those who believed in him were later to receive. The Trees next to the Rivers are for the healing of the Nations, which is the Churches Job. The Church is what helps heal nations and brings them into the kingdom of God. We also notice that later in the chapter, it says the gates are always open with all evil outside of the city, or the kingdom of God. This is True today. God established His kingdom in the “last days” just as Micah 4:1 says. And outside of the Kingdom of God, and the Church, is all the evil. But the reason why the gates are open is because God always accepts people into His kingdom. 

The reason why some chapters have links is because I haven’t studied much on them and so I’ve read those links and it makes sense. Some views may vary depending on the website. The Fact that Revelation, Matthew 24, and Luke 21 fits SO well with History is just amazing! No other scenario fits as well! And it is truly good news and takes off a lot of weight on your shoulders knowing God fulfilled His promises and now we don’t need to fear the Great Tribulation. Now there will be many who will come up with crazy conspiracy Theories or who will be evil but remember James 1:14: we all tempt ourselves because of our own evil desires.

Now to discuss Satan and Revelation 20. If Satan did refer to a certain being, then that still explains why He has no power over us. But also, Satan refers to adversary or false accuser and the adversary could’ve been seen as Death or the False accuser could’ve been seen as the Law, meaning it could “accuse” us of not fulfilling God’s standards. But since it is done away with, it no longer has power to accuse us because of Christ. 

70 AD, Now, and Future

Now that the Bible is fulfilled, what now? Well we need to continue to spread the word of Jesus and the truly Good News that He has fulfilled His word. We also need to stop this “Aliens are demons” or “Aliens are the great deception” bullcrap (sorry for being a little rude) but it is so annoying to hear that all the time. Alien Abductions have mostly been debunked with Sleep Paralysis. Also, Aliens and UFOs are physical and Biological (UFOs aren’t Biological but aliens are) and “demons” and “the devil” are supposedly spiritual beings. But demons and devils have ,actually, pagan origins. We should be more careful and smart as a church and stop this “World’s gonna end!” nonsense. Believing Aliens are demons and the world’s gonna end makes the church look stupid to many and will stop us from making disciples. We also need to accept science as far as it is scientifically accurate and also know that Science does change but that doesnt mean disregard science because in 5 years we may have something different. We need to embrace science because It ultimately shows what God made and how He did. God has always used the laws of Nature. He didn’t make the world supernaturally and then decide to start using the laws of nature afterwards. That makes God inconsistent. He is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow. 

How these views have affected my outlook on the Church, God, Creation, and Life

These new views have allowed me to put on a fresh set of eyes and take of the blinders of most Church Doctrine. My view of the church now isn’t completely bad, but I think the church is misled by many doctrines and traditions. That’s why I would rather stay out of alot Churches, honestly. Not because of the people, no no no, the people are great, but the doctrines of them, some of them at least, do not simply fit the Bible. My view of God has become more lighter, or to say a different way, I view God as a wonderful more powerful God knowing God’s Word, God’s Creation, and Himself are consistent with Science and History. God never intended the Bible to be 100% Scientifically accurate or even historically accurate from Genesis 1 to Revelation 22. I now have a better view of God’s Creation knowing I don’t need to ignore some aspect of God’s Creation (Evolution, big bang, etc) while accepting some (photosynthesis, gravity, etc.). I feel like I can just explore God Creation everywhere and see what He has done and quit worrying about contradicting God’s Word. My view of Life is way better now. I have finally quit being a conspiracy theorist always scared of the Anti Christ’s army, satan, and demkms coming out to mess with me or killing me, or being rejected in the science community or being scared of demons or the devil. I can now say Christ has overcome all Evil and He is ruler of this world, not the devil. I also am REALLY glad now because I feel like now, since the Bible has been all fulfilled and I don’t need to wait for Jesus to come back now and focus on leading people to Christ. I admit, I used to be preoccupied with when He would come back instead of how to prepare for when He would come back. Also, I can finally pursue my dreams of helping Humanity reach the level of Star Trek where we can explore the Universe, while just spreading God’s word to everyone even Aliens, if I encounter any. Life, overall, is such a beautiful place now that I took off the blinders of those previous views that personally made the world seem like a dark evil place. Obviously people can be bad and outright evil but that doesnt mean everyone else and the universe is evil too.

So this is How my beliefs that I’ve learned recently have kinda impacted my view of God, Creation ,and  the Church. I hope maybe this helps you fit everything together.